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		<title>By: MajorHuber</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>MajorHuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Cuty,
high time you read the articles of impeachment of GWB by Dennis Kucinich (http://kucinich.house.gov/) and please read Maj. Gen. Smedley D. Butler&#039;s masterpiece &#039;War is a racket&#039;. It&#039;s high time that these profit-driven wars stop and events like 9/11 get thoroughly investigated as many patriotic americans ask (see: www.patriotsquestion911.com or www.thepatriots.us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cuty,<br />
high time you read the articles of impeachment of GWB by Dennis Kucinich (<a href="http://kucinich.house.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://kucinich.house.gov/</a>) and please read Maj. Gen. Smedley D. Butler&#8217;s masterpiece &#8216;War is a racket&#8217;. It&#8217;s high time that these profit-driven wars stop and events like 9/11 get thoroughly investigated as many patriotic americans ask (see: <a href="http://www.patriotsquestion911.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotsquestion911.com</a> or <a href="http://www.thepatriots.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepatriots.us</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Greenberg</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ceggli I think you clicked on the wrong link. There are two download links on the home page of this site; one is for the Executive Summary. The other is for the full report. They are clearly marked.

Ben Greenberg
Manager of Online Communications
Physicians for Human Rights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ceggli I think you clicked on the wrong link. There are two download links on the home page of this site; one is for the Executive Summary. The other is for the full report. They are clearly marked.</p>
<p>Ben Greenberg<br />
Manager of Online Communications<br />
Physicians for Human Rights</p>
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		<title>By: ceggli</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>ceggli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow . . that&#039;s some statement.  Do you know many Americans?  I know thousands and no one I know wants to &quot;torture dark skinned people.&quot; Your statement is ridiculous. I just love how people drag out the spectre of racism whenever someone doesn&#039;t agree with them.  The bottom line is that we are in a war, like it or not.  We did not start the war.  The US military is the best trained and best disciplined in the world.  I found it very interesting that I went to the trouble to register to download the &quot;full report&quot; and only got the executive summary.  I want to see what is in those missing first 127 pages.  I&#039;ll keep trying to get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow . . that&#8217;s some statement.  Do you know many Americans?  I know thousands and no one I know wants to &#8220;torture dark skinned people.&#8221; Your statement is ridiculous. I just love how people drag out the spectre of racism whenever someone doesn&#8217;t agree with them.  The bottom line is that we are in a war, like it or not.  We did not start the war.  The US military is the best trained and best disciplined in the world.  I found it very interesting that I went to the trouble to register to download the &#8220;full report&#8221; and only got the executive summary.  I want to see what is in those missing first 127 pages.  I&#8217;ll keep trying to get them.</p>
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		<title>By: HowardMorland</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>HowardMorland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid many Americans are pleased to learn that we still torture dark-skinned people, decades after Southern lynching and the tiger cages of Vietnam went out of style.  In their view, only human rights sissies refuse to engage in torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid many Americans are pleased to learn that we still torture dark-skinned people, decades after Southern lynching and the tiger cages of Vietnam went out of style.  In their view, only human rights sissies refuse to engage in torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Bush&#8217;s war crimes : Global Dashboard</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush&#8217;s war crimes : Global Dashboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gaston Febus</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaston Febus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of those people you&#039;re feeling sorry for either killed or are ready kill you or your loved ones without any remorse, are ready to destroy your home and your country in the name of their religion. There are most likely every day great abuses if not tortures in every US prisons yet nobody is bitching about it yet when some muslim terrorist is mishandled the shit breaks out....
It again shows how some of you Yanks are so naive about the reality of the radical Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of those people you&#8217;re feeling sorry for either killed or are ready kill you or your loved ones without any remorse, are ready to destroy your home and your country in the name of their religion. There are most likely every day great abuses if not tortures in every US prisons yet nobody is bitching about it yet when some muslim terrorist is mishandled the shit breaks out&#8230;.<br />
It again shows how some of you Yanks are so naive about the reality of the radical Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, PHR, for your reports. This one, and the others, are essential reading on what can only be described as an American shame and tragedy.

To &quot;cuty_1000&quot; I say two things. First, torture is wrong, no matter who does it. Second, even if we discard our principals as al-Qaeda and others wish, purely practical considerations argue against using torture. It doesn&#039;t yield useful information, and it tends to deepen whatever conflict inspired its use.

The proof of the second statement can be found by looking at U.S. policy and behavior in World War II. The Japanese military was exceptionally brutal, but the United States adhered to the Geneva Conventions and followed a policy of humane treatment toward enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.

There are numerous accounts from by U.S. military personnel attesting to the effectiveness of humane treatment in producing useful, life-saving battlefield information. In short, it is not the winners who torture, it is the losers who do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, PHR, for your reports. This one, and the others, are essential reading on what can only be described as an American shame and tragedy.</p>
<p>To &#8220;cuty_1000&#8243; I say two things. First, torture is wrong, no matter who does it. Second, even if we discard our principals as al-Qaeda and others wish, purely practical considerations argue against using torture. It doesn&#8217;t yield useful information, and it tends to deepen whatever conflict inspired its use.</p>
<p>The proof of the second statement can be found by looking at U.S. policy and behavior in World War II. The Japanese military was exceptionally brutal, but the United States adhered to the Geneva Conventions and followed a policy of humane treatment toward enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.</p>
<p>There are numerous accounts from by U.S. military personnel attesting to the effectiveness of humane treatment in producing useful, life-saving battlefield information. In short, it is not the winners who torture, it is the losers who do it.</p>
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		<title>By: arcticredriver</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>arcticredriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cuty_1000&#039;s comment contains a disastrous misconception.  Leaving aside the moral dimension, turning a blind eye to GIs who breach the Uniform Code of Military Justice, by abusing captives does not protect the rights of the public.  It does not enhance public safety. 

The abuse of captives has eroded public safety.  

We have limited resources to devote to counter-terrorism.  There are always going to be potential threats we can not find enough resources to counter.  So, we have to decide which potential threats are the most important to try to counter.

Abuse of the captives has very seriously polluted the pool of intelligence we rely upon when making decisions about which threats to counter.  Guantanamo analysts wrung the captives so severely they would say anything to get the abuse to stop.  They did say anything.

We allocated our limited counter-terrorism resources badly, improperly, because we placed credit on the bad intelligence wrung from the captives through abuse.

I am sympathetic to GIs who committed violations of the UCMJ, or other laws, who THOUGHT they were obeying lawful orders.  So, hold their officers responsible, or hold Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft responsible, if the chain of responsibilty goes that high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cuty_1000&#8217;s comment contains a disastrous misconception.  Leaving aside the moral dimension, turning a blind eye to GIs who breach the Uniform Code of Military Justice, by abusing captives does not protect the rights of the public.  It does not enhance public safety. </p>
<p>The abuse of captives has eroded public safety.  </p>
<p>We have limited resources to devote to counter-terrorism.  There are always going to be potential threats we can not find enough resources to counter.  So, we have to decide which potential threats are the most important to try to counter.</p>
<p>Abuse of the captives has very seriously polluted the pool of intelligence we rely upon when making decisions about which threats to counter.  Guantanamo analysts wrung the captives so severely they would say anything to get the abuse to stop.  They did say anything.</p>
<p>We allocated our limited counter-terrorism resources badly, improperly, because we placed credit on the bad intelligence wrung from the captives through abuse.</p>
<p>I am sympathetic to GIs who committed violations of the UCMJ, or other laws, who THOUGHT they were obeying lawful orders.  So, hold their officers responsible, or hold Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft responsible, if the chain of responsibilty goes that high.</p>
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		<title>By: cuty_1000</title>
		<link>http://brokenlives.info/?p=53&#038;cpage=1#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>cuty_1000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t understand, why are you so hard on the soldiers that are risking their lifes for all of us. Have you checked how the soldiers get torture when they get capture by terrorit, and or militias. The way the reporter got his head cut off. So, you are telling me the way americans get treated at Iraq, it&#039;s ok!!!!!!!!!!. WHy aren&#039;t you fighting for the rights of you own fellow  citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand, why are you so hard on the soldiers that are risking their lifes for all of us. Have you checked how the soldiers get torture when they get capture by terrorit, and or militias. The way the reporter got his head cut off. So, you are telling me the way americans get treated at Iraq, it&#8217;s ok!!!!!!!!!!. WHy aren&#8217;t you fighting for the rights of you own fellow  citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Psyche, Science, and Society &#187; New report documents medical consequences of and medical complicity with US torture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psyche, Science, and Society &#187; New report documents medical consequences of and medical complicity with US torture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Below are two PHR Press Releases and the Preface by Gen. Taguba. Medical Evidence Supports Detainees’ Accounts of Torture in US Custody [...]</description>
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