Comments on: US Torture of Detainees Caused Severe Pain, Long-Term Suffering

By: Xtina99

Xtina99 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:54:38 +0000

Read it. You are still wrong. People make this stuff up to get Dr. Necromancer’s dander up. That’s all it is.

By: neuromancer

neuromancer — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:48:31 +0000

@Xtina99,
I am certainly impressed at the level of your discourse.

If you had read the report, you would see there is no believable evidence that the detainees were severely injured presented in the report. You provide no documentation to refute this statement. There is no mention of “MRI” in the report. A simple string search confirms this. The term “x-ray” appears in the report on 1 (one) occasion in describing an actual test result, which supposedly shows a bony deformity of a nasal bone which might have been caused by a prior nasal fracture. When that occurred is not at all clear, if that is the correct interpretation. The rest of the mentions of “x-ray” are in relation to Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay, or in 1 case an allegation that a detainee had a chest x-ray, and in another that an x-ray was recommended of the hand. No “severe” or “serious” injuries are documented by x-ray or MRI in this report, contrary to your contention.

Please get your facts straight before you come here and post nonsense.

By: Xtina99

Xtina99 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:07:37 +0000

Oh yeah, Dr. Necromancer, god knows Physicians for Human Rights has a dark and evil agenda. Even though the Pentagon and the Dept. of Justice documented the abuse in their own reports, they’ve GOT to be lying.

The former prisoner’s narratives matched up closely with x-rays, MRI’s etc., forcing the examining body to conclude they were telling the truth. Or does Al-Queda get them to pre-fake broken bones and evidence of electical shock?

Would you be willing to weave a fantasy about being forcefully butt*ucked, Mr. Necromancer? Who do you work for? And if you are indeed medical personnel, could you tell us what hospital you are at so we can be sure to avoid it?

By: neuromancer

neuromancer — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:26:44 +0000

I have read the summary of the report, and it is clear that there is essentially NO evidence of the “severe injuries” alleged in the summaries. There is no documentation of the “rectal tearing” described, which even if present, could have resulted from consensual or non-consensual anal intercourse separate from the individual’s incarceration in any case. The description of so called numbness and “weakness” in the upper extremities is only possible evidence of a brachial plexus injury, and would have to be substantiated by electromyography (EMG) to be conclusively diagnosed. The main basis of this report is the claims of the detainees, who have many reasons to make statements against their former captors. What other evidence of “severe torture” can you provide. I see none.

Their claims of psychological damage are also in need of confirmation by a disinterested party, not someone with a declared agenda against the captivity of these prisoners such as your examiner. Many guilty persons who are incarcerated for crimes become depressed over their predicament. This is not evidence of mistreatment.

This is a biased and sensationalized report of not much at all. I condemn you for your attempt to smear the US military with these unsubstantiated claims of “war crimes”.